tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9010917663653102321.post4396246906135377603..comments2024-03-27T08:18:18.703+00:00Comments on Devos IV: “All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.” Edmund BurkeZzzzzzhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02363838253700265309noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9010917663653102321.post-3539846425689300362014-04-13T12:08:22.736+01:002014-04-13T12:08:22.736+01:00I think there's a certain amount of detatchmen...I think there's a certain amount of detatchment you can allow yourself since it is made up. In the same way that reading about a murder in a book, even a 'first person' perspective, would affect you in a totally different way. In a book, it's interesting, exciting, even somewhat enjoyable. And that doesn't make us morally bankrupt - fiction is a way for people to safely explore these sorts of things.<br /><br />So I am, I'm happy to admit, pretty relaxed about ignoring the moral aspect. I think there's enough of this going on in the real world to worry about the 40K setting - that said, the occasional nod to the darker side of GrimDark will bring an element of realism to the fluffwriter's taste.Colonel Scipiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02632701529009379584noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9010917663653102321.post-41103633207920633712014-04-12T10:22:56.449+01:002014-04-12T10:22:56.449+01:00I think the fact that others were so bothered abou...I think the fact that others were so bothered about things that they posted in the first place - inspiring me to write this - and that four of you replied so quickly (and Andy BG in conversation last night) - should be taken as a healthy sign that we are not morally bankrupt. And apologies for the wonky links.<br />Zzzzzzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02363838253700265309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9010917663653102321.post-91812855575496258662014-04-12T04:01:56.722+01:002014-04-12T04:01:56.722+01:00On the fluff side of the post, the part about the ...On the fluff side of the post, the part about the High Lords was interesting - got me thinking about the types of current world bodies that should seem to be highly powerful and influential (ie UN, NATO, IMF etc) but like the High Lords, scratch the surface and they are not - we aren't globalised at all - my view is that in the main (there are acknowledged exceptions) its still each country (read Imperial Sector/planet/Lord Militant/Chapter) out for their own interests/goal/glory, although sometimes those interests can overlap giving the sense of 'common purpose'.<br /><br />Keeping in the fluff world, there have been attempts that I am aware of to suggest some aspects of the Imperium do have the Imperiums citizens wellbeing at front and centre, and not necessarily the organ of the Imperium you would have expected - I'm thinking here of the Inquisition. I just finished of the Eisenhorn and Ravenor omnibus' and in both there are examples provided of the war for humanities soul leaving whole planets and systems in disarray, but the main characters and their broader organisations stopping all further action and lending a hand to stabilise and get the planet/system back on track for the 'greater good' of the wider Imperium.<br /><br />As to the real world aspects - I've always stuck by that axiom - treat/deal with others how you would expect them to treat with you. In our gaming world that translates to trying to make sure everyone is having fun. At work it means being inclusive and trying to ensure my colleagues, and through my actions, my organisation is seen to have the public good at heart.<br /><br />Echoing Drax - I think that first link is off somewhat!LWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04769460904008281915noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9010917663653102321.post-80397267384785777882014-04-11T21:14:01.356+01:002014-04-11T21:14:01.356+01:00Great post (although I'm not sure the link to ...Great post (although I'm not sure the link to Ferret's blog went to the right place). <br /><br />I think what I like best is that it's given me the idea to create a squad of UN-style peacekeeper Guadrsmen. Hmm...Admiral Draxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07476823273954165890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9010917663653102321.post-10430185846314429252014-04-11T18:24:04.094+01:002014-04-11T18:24:04.094+01:00Nothing more to say to this than: bloody good post...Nothing more to say to this than: bloody good post, very interesting and I certainly agree. I'd second Karitas' comment as well though. I try and off-set the grimdark in my own fluff with a bit of humanity amongst the humans occasionally - this makes the grimdark more meaningful, contrast of light and dark etc etc. And what do you mean 'it's fictional'?!Kieran Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04191062526187270925noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9010917663653102321.post-40073979222064780572014-04-11T17:56:16.559+01:002014-04-11T17:56:16.559+01:00There's only one point in there i'd disagr...There's only one point in there i'd disagree with you on, and that's on the matter of the beakies disdain for humanity.<br /><br />Sure, for some chapters i;d agree, but i think the more wholesome chapters (smurfs, maybe even my smelly hairy mob) would acknowledge that they were created to protect humanity, the price they pay being to forever be separate from it, but nonetheless they are the guardians and shepherds of the mortal human empire.<br /><br />granted not some chapters.. who would either see humans as a nuisance. or food.<br /><br />oh and no, i didnt see the other post at all. gah..Karitashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06811166981334472345noreply@blogger.com